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102" Whip on Balcony Rail....
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BigBopper
you need to use the 102" as a mobile antenna, the Double Bazooka is a good antenna, but needs to be streched out, and if a seller won't refund money,,then I wouldn't do anymore business with them,,,,,go with a no ground antenna and you'll probably be fine,,Signal Mate or Saturn antenna only cost about $25,,will not perform as well as a A99, but it's a smaller version
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Choirboy
Here is the balcony from the inside (I put the 102" back up for illustrative purposes only - I just haven't taken it back yet)....
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Here is the outside of the building (my balcony is the top left one - you can barely see the 102" and my ground wire)....
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I could probably get away with a Saturn, but I hesitate to buy yet another piece of equipment that won't work because my building seems to be inhabited by Satanic radio wave demons....
Yes, SmallTruck, I enjoy flight simulators, but I've been spending all my time lately trying to get this #@%* base station to work!
Thanks yet again, y'all!
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Here is the outside of the building (my balcony is the top left one - you can barely see the 102" and my ground wire)....
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I could probably get away with a Saturn, but I hesitate to buy yet another piece of equipment that won't work because my building seems to be inhabited by Satanic radio wave demons....
Yes, SmallTruck, I enjoy flight simulators, but I've been spending all my time lately trying to get this #@%* base station to work!
Thanks yet again, y'all!
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BigBopper
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Choirboy
BB, are you pulling my leg? 
Where would I find it? Like I said, I think I could get away with a Saturn on the balcony rail, but I'll entertain anything at this point.
BTW, since the balcony faces south, would I be limited to receiving and transmitting in a southerly direction?
Of course, the "thoroughly checked out" Double Bazooka that Radiowavz has sent me might turn out to work perfectly when it arrives, but I have my doubts....
Where would I find it? Like I said, I think I could get away with a Saturn on the balcony rail, but I'll entertain anything at this point.
BTW, since the balcony faces south, would I be limited to receiving and transmitting in a southerly direction?
Of course, the "thoroughly checked out" Double Bazooka that Radiowavz has sent me might turn out to work perfectly when it arrives, but I have my doubts....
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Ashton
what you need to do with the bazooka is mount it on a wall in a upside down w formation. I used screw in the wall c hooks also trim all but 3 inches off each end and it should work fine thats what I did . Also make sure its not real loose. I was going thru the same type situation!! but doing the above made the bazooka work nicely.
Choirboy wrote:BB, are you pulling my leg?
Where would I find it? Like I said, I think I could get away with a Saturn on the balcony rail, but I'll entertain anything at this point.
BTW, since the balcony faces south, would I be limited to receiving and transmitting in a southerly direction?
Of course, the "thoroughly checked out" Double Bazooka that Radiowavz has sent me might turn out to work perfectly when it arrives, but I have my doubts....
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SmallTruckBigRadio
Well Choirboy, here I go. I will call this a brainstorm, to hopefully give you ideas to try. Most of the guys on this forum will probably tell you they seem more like "brain farts" the brain storms. But here goes anyway.
Would they possibly allow an 18 ft Antron 99 type antenna mounted against one of the less visible walls? (Don't get you hopes up for this one)
Antron 99 down a chimney?
If you can possibly get permission to get a vertical antenna mounted at the peak of the end of the gable roof, left end of the building, not the dormer (too ugly), you will be rocking big time!
or possibly to a chimney? or one of the roof vents?
Bribe the landlord, bribe the other tennants.
Draping the bazooka from one point of the building exterior, outward to another point migh get you somewhere, but RF interferance on your neighbors electronics is a big possibility.
No vertical antenna will work where you have the 102" whip. It is "firing" back into your room, and RF is bouncing badly off the surrounding vertical walls.
I am sad to say though, that on such a pretty building, you will probably be stuck with an antenna in the attic, that you will probably have to sneak.
The bazooka may have a chance of working if you suspend it horizontally through the attic. Get advice from the seller / manufacturer on this possibility. You may have luck experimenting with horizontal and V type , dn inverted V patterns.
An NGP "no ground plane" antenna may work in the attic.
An NGP, mounted vertically, or horizontally, on a horizontal stick or pole, 6 ft or longer, that you could clamp temporarily to the handrail, just when you want to talk. (use at night only?)
Another possibility is using a 10-12 push pole, temporarily / at night, to shove a temporary NGP antenna, mounted to the end of the pole, up from you balcony, so the base of the antenna gets above the roof.
Use a long horizontal pole to "dangle" the bazooka over the handrail, like a fishing pole and line, temporary of course.
Either antenna may cause RF serious interferance with TV's, cordless phones, radios etc. You will be able to "hear" OK, but you may have to reduce the power output of your radio to stop RF interferance.
Don't get evicted, don't fall off the ladder or the roof...
It's extreme, but is moving somewhere else an option?
You may have to resort to Receive only?
My last idea for now, is the possibility of using you mag mount Wilson temporarily when you want to talk, but it will probably have to be stuck in the horizonal position, outside the balcony handrail.
Lastly, develop a neghborhoo clotheslin movement and incorporate the bazooka into the program.
I hope this helps, or as lease gets some laughes. and staring neibors, I mysef am currenly succombing to the prescription sleeping pill that I took about 20 minuts ago, and the letters I am typing are begininng to apeer like they should be in Beetlejuice.
Till tomorrow, with the choir riding cowboy, gives is anoter shoT
Iusually triy to keep my advice kleener than ths, but thi is the sloppy leavings of drug induced typeing
Whew, I cant see straight...gotta go...se ya later.
Would they possibly allow an 18 ft Antron 99 type antenna mounted against one of the less visible walls? (Don't get you hopes up for this one)
Antron 99 down a chimney?
If you can possibly get permission to get a vertical antenna mounted at the peak of the end of the gable roof, left end of the building, not the dormer (too ugly), you will be rocking big time!
or possibly to a chimney? or one of the roof vents?
Bribe the landlord, bribe the other tennants.
Draping the bazooka from one point of the building exterior, outward to another point migh get you somewhere, but RF interferance on your neighbors electronics is a big possibility.
No vertical antenna will work where you have the 102" whip. It is "firing" back into your room, and RF is bouncing badly off the surrounding vertical walls.
I am sad to say though, that on such a pretty building, you will probably be stuck with an antenna in the attic, that you will probably have to sneak.
The bazooka may have a chance of working if you suspend it horizontally through the attic. Get advice from the seller / manufacturer on this possibility. You may have luck experimenting with horizontal and V type , dn inverted V patterns.
An NGP "no ground plane" antenna may work in the attic.
An NGP, mounted vertically, or horizontally, on a horizontal stick or pole, 6 ft or longer, that you could clamp temporarily to the handrail, just when you want to talk. (use at night only?)
Another possibility is using a 10-12 push pole, temporarily / at night, to shove a temporary NGP antenna, mounted to the end of the pole, up from you balcony, so the base of the antenna gets above the roof.
Use a long horizontal pole to "dangle" the bazooka over the handrail, like a fishing pole and line, temporary of course.
Either antenna may cause RF serious interferance with TV's, cordless phones, radios etc. You will be able to "hear" OK, but you may have to reduce the power output of your radio to stop RF interferance.
Don't get evicted, don't fall off the ladder or the roof...
It's extreme, but is moving somewhere else an option?
You may have to resort to Receive only?
My last idea for now, is the possibility of using you mag mount Wilson temporarily when you want to talk, but it will probably have to be stuck in the horizonal position, outside the balcony handrail.
Lastly, develop a neghborhoo clotheslin movement and incorporate the bazooka into the program.
I hope this helps, or as lease gets some laughes. and staring neibors, I mysef am currenly succombing to the prescription sleeping pill that I took about 20 minuts ago, and the letters I am typing are begininng to apeer like they should be in Beetlejuice.
Till tomorrow, with the choir riding cowboy, gives is anoter shoT
Iusually triy to keep my advice kleener than ths, but thi is the sloppy leavings of drug induced typeing
Whew, I cant see straight...gotta go...se ya later.
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Choirboy
Ashton, could you post a picture?
When you say "upside-down W" do you mean that each leg is bent 45 degrees with the center connecter at the bottom like this?
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I assume you mean that there is about 3" of the 16 gauge wire protruding from the sealed end of the coax like this?
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|-3"-|--------7' 5"-------------| |--------7' 5"-------------|-3"-|
I haven't gotten the new one yet, so I may as well butcher the old one trying to make it work!
Thanks!
When you say "upside-down W" do you mean that each leg is bent 45 degrees with the center connecter at the bottom like this?
/\ /\
/ \ / \
/ \ / \
/ \ / \
/ \_/ \
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|
I assume you mean that there is about 3" of the 16 gauge wire protruding from the sealed end of the coax like this?
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------===============|____|===============------
|-3"-|--------7' 5"-------------| |--------7' 5"-------------|-3"-|
I haven't gotten the new one yet, so I may as well butcher the old one trying to make it work!
Thanks!
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SmallTruckBigRadio
Looky there, It's Big BOPper with a HOMING PIGEION! COOLBigBopper wrote:They use to make an indoor antenna, called a" HP-27 Homing Pigeon Indoor Base Station Antenna,",,looked like a pole that went to the ceiling to the floor,,,they sold the heck out of them in the late 70's and early 80's,,,found a place on the web that claims to have them for $44.95
man my head is spinnigg...
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Ashton
yes its a up side down w shape with the coax cable going straight down to the floor. and yes cut all but 3 inches off each tip of bare wire. Iam at work so I can send a picture. but when I get home I can take a pick and send it to you.. make the antenna shape like a upside down mcdonalds M
its rounded
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its rounded
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Choirboy wrote:Ashton, could you post a picture?
When you say "upside-down W" do you mean that each leg is bent 45 degrees with the center connecter at the bottom like this?
/\ /\
/ \ / \
/ \ / \
/ \ / \
/ \_/ \
|
|
|
I assume you mean that there is about 3" of the 16 gauge wire protruding from the sealed end of the coax like this?
_____
------===============|____|===============------
|-3"-|--------7' 5"-------------| |--------7' 5"-------------|-3"-|
I haven't gotten the new one yet, so I may as well butcher the old one trying to make it work!
Thanks!
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Choirboy
I thank and applaud everyone who is brave enough to keep coming back to this thread....
I tried Ashton's suggestion (the little thingy on the end of the 16 gauge is where I had added more wire)....
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The legs are each exactly 7' 8" long and the angles are 45 degrees.
This configuration gave me my first breakthrough with SWRs:
Channel 1 - 2.1:1
Channel 19 - 2.4:1
Channel 40 - 2.6:1
HOWEVER, I'm only hearing static, with a very occasional garbled transmission, and this from 1 mile from I-35 during rush hour. If anybody is hearing me ask for a radio check, I'm not hearing any responses....
I tried Ashton's suggestion (the little thingy on the end of the 16 gauge is where I had added more wire)....
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The legs are each exactly 7' 8" long and the angles are 45 degrees.
This configuration gave me my first breakthrough with SWRs:
Channel 1 - 2.1:1
Channel 19 - 2.4:1
Channel 40 - 2.6:1
HOWEVER, I'm only hearing static, with a very occasional garbled transmission, and this from 1 mile from I-35 during rush hour. If anybody is hearing me ask for a radio check, I'm not hearing any responses....
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Ashton
I have the canister part of my bazooka up hanging from the ceiling not as low as you have it! and also the bare tips 3 inches worked for me on both sides.
Choirboy wrote:I thank and applaud everyone who is brave enough to keep coming back to this thread....
I tried Ashton's suggestion (the little thingy on the end of the 16 gauge is where I had added more wire)....
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The legs are each exactly 7' 8" long and the angles are 45 degrees.
This configuration gave me my first breakthrough with SWRs:
Channel 1 - 2.1:1
Channel 19 - 2.4:1
Channel 40 - 2.6:1
HOWEVER, I'm only hearing static, with a very occasional garbled transmission, and this from 1 mile from I-35 during rush hour. If anybody is hearing me ask for a radio check, I'm not hearing any responses....
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See my post under BASE STATIONS titled AC POWER.
I pick up interference from my computer and I've got my equipment 10 feet away from it, mainly from the screen and ever so slightly from the computer (fan). Won't help your SWR tho. TJ
I pick up interference from my computer and I've got my equipment 10 feet away from it, mainly from the screen and ever so slightly from the computer (fan). Won't help your SWR tho. TJ
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