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6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 11 2020, 22:26
by 659
Does anyone know if there is a vendor that sells 6" heavy duty pot belly SS springs for a 102 inch whip? All I can find are 4" springs.

Thank you,

Harry

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 06:18
by 295 antenna
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Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 07:10
by Grinder74
4 inch should work fine. Do you have to have 6?

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 07:34
by 659
With a 4" spring I'm getting SWR's of 1.8 on 40 and 1.7 on 1. I removed the 4" spring and the the SWR's jumped to 2 and 2.1. I'm trying to get to a total length of 108". Right now with the whip at 102 and the 4 inch spring I'm at 106. I really would like to get the SWR's a bit lower, below 1.5 if possible.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 07:47
by MDYoungblood
You could use a stud and nut to increase the length. I personally don’t care for springs, the whip has enough flex, I’d look into a riser.

3’s

Greg

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 08:02
by 659
When you say riser what do you mean exactly?

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 09:15
by nosaj
Just an obvious, was this a used 102 in whip you aquired? If so actually measure it it may have been modified. Just want to make sure you'd measured and not just adding numbers without verifying.
If it's new, could be connections or your mounting also since there is a fair little bit of work to removing an tightening things there.
If it was me just for grins I'd start with a dummy load making sure the cable is not adding some swr in there via a dodgy connector.

nosaj
N1EBC

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 09:21
by 659
Antenna and cable are new. I will check with a dummy load and see what we get. Thank you.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 10:50
by nosaj
New doesn't always mean good.

nosaj
N1EBC

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 11:11
by 659
This is true.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 15:53
by MDYoungblood
659 wrote: Apr 12 2020, 08:02 When you say riser what do you mean exactly?
It is a spacer to increase the antenna length,
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This one uses the whip with the ferrule (screw end) removed, other type has threaded ends.

3's

Greg

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 12 2020, 16:57
by 659
Thank you.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 13 2020, 12:13
by 443 Arizona
a swivel ball will give you about 2 inches and you can usually find them with the springs

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 13 2020, 19:18
by 659
I checked the coax with a dummy load. SWR's are flat. The antenna is on a 2018 F250 that is all aluminum. The antenna is mounted in the stake bed hole at the passenger side rear. The mount is a Breedlove quick connect. I had 1-8 guage ground wire running from the mount to the steel frame. I added a second 8 guage ground wire tonight. I have not had a chance to recheck the SWR's.Would running a ground wire to the aluminum body help? Coax in 18' long. Thank you all for your help.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 14 2020, 07:02
by Bluerunner
Just temporarily black tape a bit of maybe 12 gauge wire to the tip of the antenna to extend it the 6" you want. Then check your swr to see if it will be worth the trouble to extend the whip. Trim the wire to get the swr you want, then measure how much longer the extension will need to be. Should be pretty close to the best length then.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Apr 14 2020, 10:25
by MDYoungblood
Bonding (Grounding) the bed and body panels on a vehicle is highly recommended but since your Ford has the aluminum components I’d check with someone in the dealer service department about if there would be any problems with doing this. MY thought is a problem with electrolysis causing corrosion And the computer Information feedback system.

3’s

Greg

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Jun 17 2020, 12:05
by banjo315
443 Arizona wrote: Apr 13 2020, 12:13 a swivel ball will give you about 2 inches and you can usually find them with the springs
If this is true about the ball mount itself adding 2 inches, that is good. Can we confirm this? I basically came looking for answers to the same question as OP.

Re: 6" 102 Whip Spring

Posted: Feb 19 2021, 18:13
by Double J
Yes, the ball and spring makes about 6"; I would ground the antenna to the frame, then take a ground from the frame to battery